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10 Responses to “Bullfighting—art Or Outrage?”
Lenio Says:
Outrage. Jehovah gave us the animals to be in subjection to us not for us to torture, hurt and maim them. We are to nurture and care for them and only hunt for food and sustanance not for sport.
MaBa Says:
Anyone who eats beef has no right to disparage the Bullfight… the slaughter of the bull in the arena is much more humane than what happens in stockyards and slaughter houses.
By the way… I would never go to a bullfight or a slaughterhouse…
Ũniνέгsäl Рдnтs™ P3D Says:
Outrage!
(I never thought I’d say this, but why didn’t you post this to the bullfighting section?)
I can’t believe there’s a bullfighting section, but not a section for atheism/agnosticism.
Godless Says:
Personally I think it is barbaric to brutally torture and tease an animal, then kill it. Calling it “art” is a cultural bias.
scotgirl Says:
It’s a Barbaric “sport”!!
gertysto Says:
Outrage; how can anyone think this is in any way to be construed as ART???? You take a helpless animal, weaken it with picadors who stab it until it loses a lot of blood, then the brave matador comes out and finishes the dying animal off by stabbing it in the heart but many times misses and stabs it in the lungs. I never feel bad when a matador gets it in the groin,. That is karma.
Spindrif Says:
nice rant.
M Says:
Scotgirl–for you, it’s a cultural bias to call bullfighting an art.
For aficionados of the sport, it’s culturally-biased of YOU to pass judgment on it and dismiss it as “barbaric”. You’re judging it based on the mentality of fuzzy-feeling animal rights activism that has really only arisen in the last 50-100 years or so. Bulls in bullfights face a far less “barbaric” death than bulls who meet their demise in slaughterhouses; and the bulls don’t even always die. Some are given a reprieve if they fight well, and some bullfights are no-kill. Bulls who ARE killed are used for meat, so it’s not as if they go to waste. They also live better lives up until the point of the bullfight than most cattle do.
Realize that your “unbiased” judgments of things you don’t understand are anything BUT unbiased.
ಠ__ಠ Says:
It is their culture we have NO right to judge or to tell them what to do stop being ethnocentric, for me though its an art coz I am a guy and I love seeing blood (for some reason maybe I need a check up)
Imacynic Says:
On the one hand it does appear to be brutal, merciless, and barbaric.
On the other hand, it can be seen as symbolic of the internal struggle within us that we all face since humans are a trinity of divinity, humanity, and beast.
I doubt most spectators see this but in the ancient world the myth of Theseus slaying the minotaur and the secret rites of Mithraism (where a bull was slain) were seen as the victory of our higher nature over our lower nature.
So, it depends on the state of consciousness of the person. To average man it is barbarism and senseless, but to the conscious individual where the same laws do not apply – it is archetypal and symbolic of the higher order of things since all physical representation is reflection and not reality.
Peace.
Outrage. Jehovah gave us the animals to be in subjection to us not for us to torture, hurt and maim them. We are to nurture and care for them and only hunt for food and sustanance not for sport.
Anyone who eats beef has no right to disparage the Bullfight… the slaughter of the bull in the arena is much more humane than what happens in stockyards and slaughter houses.
By the way… I would never go to a bullfight or a slaughterhouse…
Outrage!
(I never thought I’d say this, but why didn’t you post this to the bullfighting section?)
I can’t believe there’s a bullfighting section, but not a section for atheism/agnosticism.
Personally I think it is barbaric to brutally torture and tease an animal, then kill it. Calling it “art” is a cultural bias.
It’s a Barbaric “sport”!!
Outrage; how can anyone think this is in any way to be construed as ART???? You take a helpless animal, weaken it with picadors who stab it until it loses a lot of blood, then the brave matador comes out and finishes the dying animal off by stabbing it in the heart but many times misses and stabs it in the lungs. I never feel bad when a matador gets it in the groin,. That is karma.
nice rant.
Scotgirl–for you, it’s a cultural bias to call bullfighting an art.
For aficionados of the sport, it’s culturally-biased of YOU to pass judgment on it and dismiss it as “barbaric”. You’re judging it based on the mentality of fuzzy-feeling animal rights activism that has really only arisen in the last 50-100 years or so. Bulls in bullfights face a far less “barbaric” death than bulls who meet their demise in slaughterhouses; and the bulls don’t even always die. Some are given a reprieve if they fight well, and some bullfights are no-kill. Bulls who ARE killed are used for meat, so it’s not as if they go to waste. They also live better lives up until the point of the bullfight than most cattle do.
Realize that your “unbiased” judgments of things you don’t understand are anything BUT unbiased.
It is their culture we have NO right to judge or to tell them what to do stop being ethnocentric, for me though its an art coz I am a guy and I love seeing blood (for some reason maybe I need a check up)
On the one hand it does appear to be brutal, merciless, and barbaric.
On the other hand, it can be seen as symbolic of the internal struggle within us that we all face since humans are a trinity of divinity, humanity, and beast.
I doubt most spectators see this but in the ancient world the myth of Theseus slaying the minotaur and the secret rites of Mithraism (where a bull was slain) were seen as the victory of our higher nature over our lower nature.
So, it depends on the state of consciousness of the person. To average man it is barbarism and senseless, but to the conscious individual where the same laws do not apply – it is archetypal and symbolic of the higher order of things since all physical representation is reflection and not reality.
Peace.